tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-199325449028243825.post1710571559334288804..comments2023-09-07T02:20:10.612-07:00Comments on webspelunker - My Travels Across Second Life: Controversy in Second Life webspelunkerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01755989655612389046noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-199325449028243825.post-16630141305538643962014-08-14T03:06:16.447-07:002014-08-14T03:06:16.447-07:00Good deal web! If you can't make it Sunday we&...Good deal web! If you can't make it Sunday we'll just setup a time when we both can meet. Just let me know.<br /><br />Blue Skies,<br />Luke LukeFlywalkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15159410184891637888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-199325449028243825.post-59136691942545294512014-08-13T13:46:58.231-07:002014-08-13T13:46:58.231-07:00SlAviationNetwork,
I'll take you up on your o...SlAviationNetwork,<br /><br />I'll take you up on your offer!<br /><br />Not sure if I can make this Sunday but I'll try!<br /><br />Safe skies!<br /><br />TC<br /><br />web<br />webspelunkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01755989655612389046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-199325449028243825.post-92062231291476744022014-08-12T18:40:57.448-07:002014-08-12T18:40:57.448-07:00Whether she takes me up on my offer or not I will ...Whether she takes me up on my offer or not I will be happy to take you on a flight webspelunker. It will give you some very interesting material to write about. If you're not busy join us for Sunday Flyer's Club. You can ride with me or another pilot or fly your own. It's a leisurely airship flight around the Blake Sea and surrounding regions. <br /> LukeFlywalkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15159410184891637888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-199325449028243825.post-33935774350952563042014-08-12T08:17:37.825-07:002014-08-12T08:17:37.825-07:00SlAviationNetwork,
Let's hope she does take y...SlAviationNetwork,<br /><br />Let's hope she does take you up on your offer!<br /><br />But, if she doesn't I'd be happy to meet you inworld sometime to go on a flight for my blog!<br /><br />Thanks for reading and commenting!<br /><br />TC<br /><br />web<br />webspelunkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01755989655612389046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-199325449028243825.post-44587135628377344922014-08-12T08:05:10.115-07:002014-08-12T08:05:10.115-07:00This just goes to prove that any idiot with a comp...This just goes to prove that any idiot with a computer can write a blog and make it sound like they are knowledgeable about a subject. They get by with this as long as readers don't take the time to investigate. I have spent a lot of my Second Life time over the last 3 years recording videos on the activities of the SL Aviation community. Aviation in Second Life is huge and a lot of people participate in it. I would like to invite Ms. Levy to come into Second Live and let me take her on a 3 hour hot air balloon flight over the Blake Sea and surrounding regions. If she doesn't want to do that the least she can do is watch some of my videos. www.slaviationnetwork.com LukeFlywalkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15159410184891637888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-199325449028243825.post-56074407023662612902014-08-10T07:14:55.069-07:002014-08-10T07:14:55.069-07:00Mona,
I agree with you on your comments. And, as...Mona,<br /><br />I agree with you on your comments. And, as I replied to another reader earlier, Karyne's choice of title certainly didn't help her cause any!<br /><br />Further, yes, you don't need to contact an author of a piece to have an opinion of it.<br /><br />But, here's where I'm coming from. A Real Life publication, admittedly not Wired but larger circulation than either of us, came and did a story.<br /><br />Yes, for a whole variety of reasons, they had a bad experience. Maybe they could have approached it better.<br /><br />We both know, please excuse me if I'm assuming too much here, that Second Life is much more than Karyne experienced.<br /><br />This is a chance to reach out and show someone what the communities inworld are all about. Linden Lab won't do it that's for sure.<br /><br />I hope we can get Karyne, and maybe some others to return, and show them what Second Life is really all about!<br /><br />Thanks for reading and commenting!<br /><br />TC<br /><br />web<br />webspelunkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01755989655612389046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-199325449028243825.post-37587317488974110792014-08-10T07:07:52.442-07:002014-08-10T07:07:52.442-07:00whiburnblackburn,
Thanks as always for reading an...whiburnblackburn,<br /><br />Thanks as always for reading and commenting!<br /><br />Karyne's title does seem to be what has set folks off!<br /><br />But, as your comment infers, Linden lab has set itself up for a sucker punch with the noobie experience. (Which I understand has only gotten worse with recent attempts to improve things!) <br /><br />You're very observant with my photos. I deliberately selected those with builds vs. crowds of people to highlight the creativity and diversity inworld. But, you're right about not too many folks being about.<br /><br />I've noticed that the more elaborate and creative the build the fewer folks who seem to be around.<br /><br />Thanks again!<br /><br />TC<br /><br />web<br />webspelunkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01755989655612389046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-199325449028243825.post-39006273716370278392014-08-10T04:33:37.648-07:002014-08-10T04:33:37.648-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Mona Eberhardthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08211176452617463387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-199325449028243825.post-26293140380945616322014-08-10T04:33:35.808-07:002014-08-10T04:33:35.808-07:00Correction: id est; Android's autocomplete/aut...Correction: id est; Android's autocomplete/autocorrect function makes pretty poor decisions very often.Mona Eberhardthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08211176452617463387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-199325449028243825.post-19316281710906959402014-08-10T04:30:03.940-07:002014-08-10T04:30:03.940-07:00Honestly, it's not my job to offer Mrs Levy a ...Honestly, it's not my job to offer Mrs Levy a better view of SL. I'm not doing PR work for Linden Lab; were I employed by it, or were I a mentor in any of the groups, I'd have reasons to do so. Furthermore, to form an opinion and express it, I don't need to contact the author of a piece. <br /><br />As to Mrs Levy's article: What she seemingly set out to do was see what a new avatar experiences in SL. In this, her article should be seen as a rude awakening, and she should be credited for not giving up when she was summarily ignored (as Inara Pey correctly described it) in that GoT-themed RP region. It's somewhere at that point where most newbies give up, actually. <br /><br />The article had no malice in it, and Mrs Levy was unfairly attacked; the SL user base needs to ditch its persecution syndrome, and it needs to do it <i>yesterday</i>. Those who see a... conspiracy against SL need to be treated for (as per ICD10) F20.0, F22.0 and F22.8, and I've stopped caring whom this may upset.<br /><br />However, the article's title was misleading, irrelevant to the content, and it stuck out like a sore thumb, as there was precisely zero correlation between it and the text. If Mrs Levy wanted to write about the current state of SL, I'd have expected her to go out and research the topic more, and use SL in a more targeted manner. And, of course, when you do research, you don't expect your research's subject(s) to come out to you; you're supposed to find them and look for information.<br /><br />If her aim was to show what a beginner experiences in SL, the title should have been chosen appropriately. As it is, there's a disconnect that isn't helpful. There are also some factual errors in her article (for instance, you don't see adult-oriented results in search unless you set your maturity preferences accordingly).<br /><br />But still, for what it shows us (<i>id east</i> that the new user experience is wide of the mark, but still she managed to enjoy the ride somewhat), it's a valuable article and both the Lab and the so-called community had better take heed.Mona Eberhardthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08211176452617463387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-199325449028243825.post-78697995306357646092014-08-10T00:43:24.784-07:002014-08-10T00:43:24.784-07:00Interesting post, as usual. I'm kinda with Kar...Interesting post, as usual. I'm kinda with Karyne, though what the bloggers say is also correct in that she could have (perhaps should have) done a lot more investigation before writing what she did. However, my main bitch is with her title. What 'apocalypse' is SL 'post'. Does she even understand the meaning of apocalypse or is she just using the word for effect. But having said that, I felt she was quite mild in her comments. I think there's a lot wrong with SL's current newbie experience. Back in my day (nearly seven years ago) you went to Help Island where you had to pass a number of basic competencies, boring perhaps, but worthwhile, then you were turned loose in the Island which was a sanitised version of SL. SL had a mentoring program and these glorious creatures not only showed what was possible on SL proper, but had endless patience with stupid questions. Consequently when I made the leap, I had a fair idea of what to expect, what was possible and how to use the functionality. It seems that doesn't happen nowadays, perhaps we've become more focussed on instant gratification, but I suspect that is why they only retain 20% of new people. Incidentally, looking at your photos pointed up something - apart from a single person in one photo, there don't seem to be many, or indeed any, people about....... is that not one of the problems. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com